Mr. ROBERTS. How much for the ice plant and how much for the miscellaneous? Admiral STANFORD. An ice plant designed for making from 3 to 5 tons of solid ice per day and also for refrigerating or cold-storage rooms for vegetables and meats required by the marines, by the hospital, and the different commissaries at the yard will probably cost about $15,000. Structures for the ice-making and refrigerating rooms will probably cost $10,000 additional. Mr. ROBERTS. Is not 3 tons a day a pretty small plant? Admiral STANFORD. It does not require a very large solid output for the yard's needs, provided they have cold-storage rooms. Mr. ROBERTS. Will the ice plant require a separate building? Admiral STANFORD. The cold-storage rooms, of course, will be separate. The ammonia compressor should be in an annex to the power plant. Mr. BUTLER. Please give us a more detailed outline of what is proposed there. Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir; I can not recall whether the power plant as laid out makes provision for this ice-making apparatus or not. Mr. ROBERTS. We should like to know. Admiral STANFORD. The ice-making apparatus will be in a structure adjacent to the power plant, this arrangement being desirable to avoid danger from ammonia. Mr. ROBERTS. Do I understand, under the present plan, you think that $25,000 will cover the ice plant? That leaves $25,000 for miscellaneous. What would that be? Admiral STANFORD. Miscellaneous includes flagpole, saluting battery, fence, gatehouse, apparatus for fire protection, moorings, etc. The CHAIRMAN. The next item is, "One dry-dock crane, $100,000." Is that a crane for the use of the dry dock now being completed? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Will that circle around the dry dock on a railway track? Is it to be a movable crane? Admiral STANFORD. A locomotive crane. It will travel around both sides and the head of the dry dock. The CHAIRMAN. What will be its capacity? Admiral STANFORD. Fifty tons. The CHAIRMAN. Will a 50-ton crane be sufficient? Will you not be coming back in a year or two and wanting a 100-ton crane? Admiral STANFORD. A 150-ton crane is now being completed for the dock at Pearl Harbor. The CHAIRMAN. And this crane is for the more expeditious use of the smaller things, when you will not want to use the other one? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir; and particularly in connection with vessels which may be in the dock. Mr. ROBERTS. Will this crane be used in connection with vessels in the dock? Admiral STANDFORD. You would have to put a vessel in the dock to have it served by the crane. Mr. Foss. As I understand it, all these estimates are within the original estimates, and there are no new additions? Admiral STANDFORD. Not any additional items except the marine railway. Mr. Foss. Are there likely to be any further estimates? Admiral STANFORD. The general development of the station has been given very careful consideration. Provision for a marine railway is apparently the only large item which is necessary which was not included in the original list, and which will, to the best of our knowledge, complete the station as contemplated. The original list, together with certain sums which have been allotted for depots for coal, additional amounts which have been appropriated to enlarge the dock and to meet unexpected physical difficulties in its construction, and the item for marine railway will, to the best of my knowledge, complete the scheme as contemplated. Mr. Foss. What was the total of the original estimates? Mr. BUTLER. Exclusive of the dock? The CHAIRMAN. Altogether something over $10,000,000. Admiral STANFORD. $10,840,500. It should be noted in making this statement that the item for the marine railway is additional; that the department has recently made provision for a more elaborate coaling plant for which funds have been allotted from the appropriation "Depots for coal"; also that provision has been made for using funds for Depots for coal" for the storage of fuel oil, including necessary pumps and piping system. Mr. Foss. How much will that amount to? Admiral STANFORD. In this statement which I have prepared the total estimated cost of the repair plant proper was $10,419,500, of which $9,289,000 has been appropriated, $554,000 are included in this list which is before you, leaving $576,500 yet to be requested to complete the $10,419,500. The total estimate for the naval magazine was $403,000, of which $152,500 has been appropriated and the list now before us requests $250,500 to complete the $403,000. For the Marine Corps post $418,000 was estimated, $185,000 has been appropriated, $118,000 is requested, leaving $115,000 yet to be asked for. For the naval hospital $300,000 was estimated, $75,000 has been appropriated, and in a supplemental estimate which I think the department will send $100,000 will be asked for, which will leave $125,000 yet to be appropriated. Coaling plant, "Depots for coal," total estimated cost $960,000, and the amount now allotted is $613,750. Mr. Foss. Is that all taken out of the general appropriation "Depots for coal"? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir. Mr. Foss. This is outside the original estimate? Admiral STANFORD. It is outside of the estimate. The CHAIRMAN. In the estimate of last year we directed that $345,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary, should be used for the coaling station at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. That was of the $500,000 appropriated? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Does your statement embrace the $345,000? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir; and also an additional allotment which has been made. The CHAIRMAN. From the general fund? Admiral STANFORD. From the general fund. The $300,000 provided only for a pier and for the coal bins, but made no provisions for facilities whereby the coal could be taken from vessels to the pier and moved from the pier to the bins, or by which coal could be mechanically removed from the bins to the water front, and then into the Vessel. The additional allotment was made as a start toward providing the necessary equipment. Detailed plans showing the entire scheme have been developed. The CHAIRMAN. You showed them to me last summer. I would be glad if you would bring them to-morrow and show them to the committee. Admiral STANFORD. I shall be glad to do so. Those items all aggregate $12,631,500, being the total estimated cost of the station, of which $10,446,250 has been appropriated, leaving $1,228,750 which is in these estimates, and $956,500 yet to be asked for. The CHAIRMAN. To complete the original project? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir; including the additional items which I have enumerated. Mr. BUTLER. That is 10 or 15 per cent more than the estimates? Admiral STANFORD. To put it that way would indicate that the estimates were too low for the specific objects which were outlined. The increase has been due to the fact that the length of the dock has been increased, a more elaborate coaling station provided, and provision for a marine railway added. Mr. BUTLER. Congress has extended improvements which were formerly estimated upon? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir. Mr. BUTLER. Enlarged the plans? Admiral STANFORD. Yes, sir; so that it is hardly fair to say that the estimates have been exceeded. Mr. BUTLER. You have explained fully why it costs more money. Mr. Foss. Is the appropriation for "Depots for coal" the only appropriation you have drawn from outside of this appropriation made under your bureau or have you drawn from other general appropriations? Admiral STANFORD. There have been some very small expenditures from the Yards and Docks appropriation "Maintenance" for office work, clerical work, and so forth. Mr. Foss. Any from Construction and Repair, Steam Engineering, or Ordnance? Admiral STANFORD. Nothing at all. Those departments have not yet begun operations at the station. Mr. Foss. I am anxious to know just how much this is going to cost? Admiral STANFORD. I have here quite a voluminous report on the subject of Pearl Harbor development, together with estimates. The CHAIRMAN. Please insert it in the hearings. Admiral STANFORD. It is a report I prepared December 6 and forwarded to the Navy Department, to the Division of Material, a résumé of what has been done and what remains to be done to complete the program. The report referred to by Admiral Stanford follows: From Chief of Bureau. To Navy Department (Division of Material). DECEMBER 6, 1912. Subject: Statement requested by chairman of Committee on Naval Affairs, House of Representatives, as to proposed cost of complete naval station, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Reference: Department's letter No. 3946-151 of November 30. 1. The estimated contemplated cost of the projected naval station at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, is $12,631,500, as compared with the estimate of $10,815,500 ($10,840,500 in error) submitted in department's letter of January 11, 1911, to the chairman of the Committee on Naval Affairs of the House of Representatives. This excess of $1,816,000 is due to increases in the appropriations for various items to cover additional facilities required, to enlarging the capacity of the coaling plant from 100,000 to 200,000 tons, and equipping it with mechanical coal-handling appliances, and to installing of additional fuel oil tanks not contemplated in the original layout. In other respects the general scope of the department's project, as outlined in its letter of January 11, 1911, has been adhered to. The increases under various items are as follows: Dock lengthened to 1,000 feet, from $2,700,000 to $3,486,500... Coaling plant, from $300,000 to $960,000.. Fuel oil and gasoline station, from $45,500 to $131,000. Quarters, Marine Corps, estimate increased by.... $786, 500 850,000 100,000 89,000 660,000 85,500 10,000 The amount now appropriated "Toward yard development" will be expended on miscellaneous items of improvement as contained in the above estimates. As expenditures under this head can not now be analyzed they are included in the list as a separate item and credited against the column "To be appro priated in the future." 2. The above equipment will permit any sort of repairs being undertaken, but the volume of work of a large character would be restricted. In other words, one or two ships might have repairs made of a capital character, but any greater demand would have to be met by temporary patching sufficient to permit of a voyage to Mare Island or Puget Sound for permanent repairs. The above plant will store complete 1 ammunition outfit for 10 battleships, 8 dreadnoughts, and 8 armored cruisers. 21 set of double officers' quarters and 1 set bachelor officers' quarters for 8 officers. 3 Hospital to cost $300,000 authorized by Congress and $75,000 now available. All expenditures for this object are charged against the general appropriation "Depots for coal." |