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back up into the property of Terminal No. 6, owned by the Pittsburgh Terminal Coal Corporation. You can see the company's houses over the hill. Or you can not see them so well from here but you can see them from the top of that hill as you come down the road towards the schoolhouse. Then when the officers would return to town the strike breakers would come back and start shooting again and that continued all that afternoon. There are two or three public buildings in the town here that have bullet holes in them. These barracks along down here were probably what they were more particularly aiming at, here along the road.

Senator GOODING. Inasmuch as you are from New York, how did you happen to witness the shooting?

Mr. McCRORY. It just happened that I was here that day, when the examination by Squire O'Rourke of that negro who was picked up at a local railroad station when waiting to go away, occurred. And he later willingly made a confession to Squire O'Rourke, and in that statement said that the coal and iron police said they would give him and his buddy, a man named Thomas Worrell, $25 apiece to shoot into the barracks windows.

Senator GOODING. Did he mention this schoolhouse in that connection?

Mr. McCRORY. No. His participation in the shooting here occurred the night before at No. 6 mine, a little ways down the road. I will say incidentally that that had nothing to do with the shooting into this schoolhouse so far as I know. : Senator GOODING. But there were some shots fired into this schoolhouse?

Mr. McCRORY. Yes, sir. There are one or two bullet holes on the front steps, and one here at this side door. Incidentally I will say that I believe they were fired from a .32 Smith & Wesson revolver.

(Thereupon the subcommittee drove down the road a short distance to the town of Bruceton, Pa., where the committee inspected a store, the front glass of which was riddled by what appered to have been bullets. No statements were taken at this point, but the following remarks were made by bystanders :)

Governor Fisher asked Captain Mauck, of the State troopers, to come here and investigate the shooting, and it is said that he reported back that it was undoubtedly done by the strikers themselves, into their own barracks. must remember that these barracks you see here were occupied the night of the shooting, and of course no one believes anything of the kind, in fact it probably can be established that it was the strike breakers who did the shooting.

(Another bystander:) The adjoining store here was and is occupied by Mrs. Fishman, a widow, and her two daughters, and her husband died about a month go. Óne rifle bullet was shot through the upper door, while the lady was down scrubbing the floor and the bullet penetrated the door and fell down into her bucket. The following day one daughter attempted suicide as a result of fear and nervousness resulting from the shooting.

Senator Gooding. Mr. McCrory, did you hear the evidence given the following day before Squire O'Rourke?

Mr. McCRORY. Yes, sir. Senator Gooding. By the colored man? Mr. McCRORY. Yes, sir; and I signed the confession as a witness. Senator GOODING. Will you furnish the subcommittee with a copy of the confession?

But you

Mr. McCrory. I will. And you will see here that there were three rows of barracks around this store building that were shot up.

(Just as the members of the subcommittee were going to their automobiles, Sergt. William Davis and two other members of the coal and iron police drove up in an automobile. The members of the committee approached their car, and the following occurred while they sat in the car:)



Senator WHEELER. We understand that you gentlemen came here after the shooting and made an investigation. Who did you find out did the shooting?

Sergeant Davis. We could not find out.

Senator GOODING. We represent the United States Senate and want to get the facts without prejudice. How many police are there here in this camp?

Sergeant Davis. We have this district here.
Senator Gooding. Do you know the number that you have here?
Sergeant Davis. Six.

Senator Gooding. You do not know how many coal and iron police the Pittsburgh Terminal Coal Corporation has employed?

Sergeant Davis. No; I do not know that.

Senator WHEELER. Was anybody arrested or prosecuted for this shooting?

Sergeant Davis. No.
Senator WHEELER. Why not?

Sergeant Davis. Well, I do understand that the constable prosecuted some one and that Squire O'Rourke got a confession.

Senator WHEELER. Did they file charges and prosecute them?
Sergeant Davis. I understand that they did.
Senator WHEELER. What happened to the case?

Sergeant Davis. I could not tell you about that. I understand that they arrested this fellow-a negro.

Senator WHEELER. Have you made any arrests, you men?
Sergeant Davis. No; not to amount to much.

Senator WHEELER. Have you made any arrests either of strike breakers or strikers, either one?

Sergeant Davis. You see I just came here in charge recently.
Senator WHEELER. How long have you been here?
Sergeant Davis. Since the early part of December.

Senator WHEELER. Have the miners caused any trouble since you have been here?

Sergeant Davis. Well, I will tell you that I would rather not say anything more. I would rather you would go higher. I would not want to state as to either side.

Senator WHEELER. We are trying to get the facts.

Sergeant Davis. I would rather have you people get it from some other place.

Senator WHEELER. So you do not want to make any statement as to whether or not either side has caused


trouble? Sergeant Davis. I would rather not.

Senator WHEELER. Some of the newspaper men here tell me that you dispersed some people who were on the sidewalk while we were in the hotel at lunch.

Sergeant Davis. Yes, sir.
Senator WHEELER. Why did you do that?

Sergeant Davis. The sheriff has a proclamation against any congregating around the streets. When we came to town we did not know that you people were here.

Mr. MURRAY. Sergeant Davis, is it not a fact that that proclamation is inoperative except so far as the State police are concerned, that you do not have charge of the streets or thereabouts, like the little crowd that was around the hotel here to-day?

Sergeant Davis. Yes; my instructions are to break up all gatherings in our district.

Mr. MURRAY. All public gatherings? Sergeant Davis. Yes, sir. Mr. MURRAY. No matter what they are? Sergeant Davis. Well, it all depends. Mr. MURRAY. What kind of gatherings do you mean? Sergeant Davis. That is the routine that we have. Mr. MURRAY. I just wanted to know what kind of gatherings you meant.

Senator WHEELER. You say “all gatherings”; what kind of gatherings do you refer to?

Sergeant Davis. All gatherings around the district where the strike is going on.

Senator WHEELER. Was there any disturbance among the people out there in front of the hotel when you dispersed them?

Sergeant Davis. Not that I know of. I just told them to move on and not to congregate,

Mr. MURRAY. Would you consider the crowd gathered here to-day right now as in violation of the sheriff's proclamation?

Sergeant Davis. When we first came into town we did not know that you men were here. We passed and came on to Lick Run and then we came back and saw you men standing outside of the hotel, and then we did not say anything to the crowd there that you saw. But upon our arrival at first we did not know what was going on and that was why we broke them up.

Mr. MURRAY. Do you have instructions from the sheriff's office or from the governor's office to disperse crowds such as you saw

Sergeant Davis. From the sheriff's office.

(Thereupon Sergeant Davis and the other two coal and iron police drove off up the road from Bruceton, and Constable William Snyder drove up in a car, he being the constable of Snowden Township, and the following occurred:)

Constable SNYDER. Senator Gooding, we have a colored fellow, in fact two of them, shipped in here this morning and who left the mines. We thought inasmuch as you were in town that maybe you would like to talk to them, so we are holding them at Squire O'Rourke's office.

Senator GOODING. Where are they from?

Constable SNYDER. We do not know. We have not questioned them that far. They are up at Squire O'Rourke's office, and he

here to-day?

would like to know if you would care to come up and interview them. If not, we will let them go back to Pittsburgh.

Senator GOODING. What could we get if we interviewed them?

Constable SNYDER. I understand that you would get a story of misrepresentation through which they were shipped in here to the mines. The company has not got an agency in Latrobe but they have gone through the town and are telling the fellows that all of the mines are still on a strike except No. 8, at Coverdale, belonging to the Pittsburgh Terminal Coal Corporation, and that there it is all settled up, but that the union men have not come back to work, and that they have to get men to work the mines.

Senator GOODING. There is so much that of course we can not get it all. But we might drive up there as soon as we can visit the barracks, and if they are still at Squire O'Rourke's office we might interrogate them.

(The committee then drove back to the Broughton schoolhouse, and leaving the main road drove up a side street where the cars mired about a foot into the soft road, a line of company houses on the right-hand side of the road, with windows and doors boarded up, and a row of union barracks on the left-hand side of the road. There were 10 union barracks, each one containing 6 or 8 four-room living quarters, provided by the United Mine Workers of America for their evicted miners. Visiting one of the living quarters for inspection, the following occurred:)


Senator WHEELER. What is your name?
Mr. SPADIE. My name is Louis Spadie.
Senator WHEELER. How long have you lived around here?
Mr. SPADIE. Fifteen years.
Senator WHEELER. How long have you been out of employment?
Mr. SPADIE. Since 1925.
Senator WHEELER. What time in 1925?
Mr. SPADIE. I think about the 15th of May, 1925.
Senator WHEELER. How much of a family have you?
Mr. SPADIE. My little kids and my mother.
Senator WHEELER. Where did you live before?
Mr. SPADIE. At House No. 22, across the street, for 13 years.

Senator WHEELER. Some of the miners have lived here longer than that, have they?

Mr. SPADIE. Oh, yes, sir.

Senator WHEELER. How long have these buildings across the street been there?

Mr. SPADIE. About 25 or 35 years.
Senator WHEELER. How do you get along here?

Mr. SPADIE. Well, with these barracks we do the best we can here. They keep some of the wind off, and somebody else pays us something.

Senator WHEELER. Have you done any work since 1925?

Mr. SPADIE. Well, they have done some work on the west side, but there was an explosion in 1926 and it was off again.

Senator WHEELER. What would you make when working here at the union scale in these mines?

Mr. SPADIE. It would depend on how much work they could give

you to do.

Senator WHEELER. Well, how much did you make in two weeks at the union scale?

Mr. SPADIE. We could make $60 or $65 or $75.

Senator WHEELER. Do I understand from that statement that after you had paid the company for groceries there was that much left for you?

Mr. SPADIE. There would be $50 or $60 and the expenses would come out.

Senator WHEELER. I did not quite understand that.

Mr. SPADIE. You would make $60 or $65 or $75 as gross earnings before there was any reduction.

Senator WHEELER. What did you have left for your family to pay for clothing and to send your children to school, and so on?

Mr. SPADIE. When you figured that all out you would have nothing at the end of the year. You would just be able to keep your family.

Senator WHEELER. Did you have any money in bank? Mr. SPADIE. If I had any money in bank you would not see me with these shoes that I wear every day and Sunday.

(Thereupon the committee visited another living quarters in one of the United Mine Workers bunk houses.)


Senator GOODING. How many children have you? Mr. SUPINSKI. I have five children. Senator GOODING. How long have you been working in the mines? Mr. SUPINSKI. For 22 years. Senator GOODING. Did you save up a little money while working at the union scale?

Mr. SUPINSKI. How could I save up anything paying for our living and with five kids and paying rent?

Senator GOODING. How much did you make?
Mr. SUPINSKI. I got about $50 or $75 for two weeks.
Senator GOODING. Since you have been out has the union kept you?
Mr. SUPINSKI. Yes; a little, $6 a week.
Senator GOODING. How much do you live on during the week?
Mr. SUPINSKI. I have $6 a week.
Senator GOODING. And that is what you get from the union?
Mr. SUPINSKI. Yes, sir.
Senator GOODING. And you have only that to live on?
Mr. SUPINSKI. Yes, sir; and anything else I can get.
Senator WAGNER. You have nowhere else to go?
Mr. SUPINSKI. I can not live any place else.

Senator WAGNER. It is pretty hard to get along with your family on that, and you could not get along at all without some help from the union?


Senator WAGNER. You keep everything nice and clean and in very good shape here.

Mr. SUPINSKI. Yes, sir; the Mrs. is at work all the day long.

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