Q. Do you decline to bring in that other bank book that you are operating under in this State? A. Yes; unless the committee demands it. It has not anything in the world to do with the campaign. Senator MCNARY. It has not anything whatever to do with the campaign. A. None whatever. Senate MCNARY. All right, then. Mr. Reporter, will you place in the record these two items which I hand you, covering the question of disbursements of the Anti-Saloon League? (The same is included in the exhibits.) Senator McNARY. Let the record show that one is dated October 19, 1926, and the other is dated October 23, 1926. Mr. Henderson, do you desire to propound any questions to this witness, any of you? Mr. HENDERSON. We have no questions. Mr. BULLITT. That is all. Senator MCNARY. Very well. You may be excused, Mr. Hicks. (Witness excused.) Senator MCNARY. Is there anything else? Mr. BULLITT. I recall also on Saturday afternoon you made some reference to the activities of Mr. Poe, the collection of internal revenue located at Tacoma. Senator MCNARY. Yes; and Mr. Hartson. Mr. BULLITT. I desire to have them present. I am informed Mr. Poe is now present. Senator MCNARY. Very well; he may come forward. Mr. RUMMENS. May I suggest that Senator French be called now, Senator McNary, as he is very anxious to get back to Vancouver? Senator MCNARY. I am glad you told me. We will take Mr. French, if he is here. TESTIMONY OF E. L. FRENCH E. L. FRENCH was thereupon called as a witness and, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: Examination by Senator McNARY: Q. Will you please state to the reporter your name and address and whatever official position, if any, you occupy? A. E. L. French; Vancouver, Wash.; I have no official position. Q. What is your occupation? A. My occupation is a fruit grower and packer at the present time. Q. How long have you lived about Vancouver? A. Thirty years. Q. Are you acquainted with Senator Jones? A. Yes. Q. And with Mr. Bullitt? A. I just saw him for the first time to-day; but I recognized him by his pictures. Q. Are you connected with the Antisaloon League? A. Yes. Q. Have you been active in that organization? A. I have for something like a year; I have been a contributor for many years, but as an official for something over a year. Q. What official position do you hold in connection with it? Q. How many are there altogether? A. There are five or six; I really do not know. Q. You heard the names mentioned here by Mr. Hicks? Q. That list is correct? A. That was just the financial committee that he mentioned. A. That I can not tell you. He may be able to give you some information about it. I can not give you the names of them. Q. What is this particular committee of which you are a member? A. Executive committee, which is an advisory committee. Q. Has it any connection with the finances of the organization? Q. Do you meet regularly annually, or at times of election? Q. How often have you met in the last year? A. We met once a month; but I have not been at all of the meetings. I have been away. Q. Do you discuss policies of the organization, and have discussions with respect to certain candidates for public office, and the enforcement of the Volstead Act, and such things as that? A. Yes. Q. What contributions have you made to the organization, with reference within the last year? A. Myself? Q. Yes. A. About $100. Q. Was that made to the local organization, of which Mr. Hicks is the superintendent, or was it made to the national organization? A. To the local, to carry on local work, educational work, prohibition. Q. Have you taken any part in this contest for the office of United States Senator? A. Not at all. Q. Have you contributed to Senator Jones's candidacy? A. No. Q. Do you know of any activities on the part of the league favoring Senator Jones? A. Favorable to him? Q. Which have been favorable or calculated to assist him? A. Well, the literature we are sending out. Q. I mean, aside from that? A. No; nothing aside from that. Q. Have you contributed to Senator Jones's candidacy or to any organization in his behalf? A. I contributed the sum of $25 to the Republican central com. mittee. Q. That was for general use? A. Yes. Q. And for Senator Jones? A. Exactly, and Mr. Sumner. I sent it to Mr. Sumner. A. Yes. Q. Have you contributed any other sums of money? There was some mention made here of some $25 contributed by you? A. That must have been this matter. Q. Now, I understood you to say you had contributed more than that. Have you contributed any more than that. I understood you to say you had contributed $100? A. No, not to any political committee. I have not contributed anything but to the Anti-Saloon League. Q. The Anti-Saloon League? A. Yes; the Anti-Saloon League of which Mr. Hicks is the superintendent; that was for carrying on the general work. Q. And not for political purposes? A. No, sir; and I have been contributing to that ever since their organization. Q. And then I understand that your contributions have gone to educational purposes and not political? A. Not at all, to any political policy. Q. Do you want to make any statement in connection with certain charges made as to your relations to the campaign of the AntiSaloon League? A. I think that is all cleared up now. Q. Have you made a full disclosure to the committee of all the facts within your knowledge? A. I understood there was some question raised as to this particular money, this $500 that came. As treasurer, I signed it. It seemed to be in the minds of some one that I had passed on $25 to the Republican Central Committee and kept the rest; but that was false; that is not true. Mr. Hicks gave the disbursements of that fund; and this particular $25 had nothing whatever to do with the Anti-Saloon League. I may say that it has been my habit to contribute to the Republican Party as well as to the Saloon League,. every year, so that is just my regular contribution. Q. Then I understand that you made this contribution of this money out of your own funds to the Republican organization yourself? A. Yes. Q. So there will be no confusion about the $500 and the AntiSaloon League? A. Not at all. It has nothing to do with it. Senator McNARY. I do not desire to ask any further questions. Have you gentlemen any questions. Examination by Mr. BULLITT: Q. You say you have not been active in this campaign? A. No, sir. Q. You were on the platform with Senator Jones a short time ago, in Vancouver, when he spoke down there, were you not? A. I was on the platform. That had nothing to do with politics at all. He was invited by the church people to talk about temperance and prohibition. Q. He was on the platform, to talk, and he greeted you as the ex-governor of the State? A. He did not. Q. Didn't he mention that in greeting you publicly? A. No. Q. Didn't the papers say that? A. There was a paper or papers who said that; but it was entirely erroneous. Senator MCNARY. Leave that out. Q. Why are you sending out this literature if you have not indorsed Senator Jones? A. May I say this, that in the primaries, it is our policy, regardless of politics, and we are nonpolitical, we did indorse Mr. Jones then. Q. You have not withdrawn that indorsement? A. No. Q. Since he was nominated? A. No, sir. Q. But you did indorse him as you did Judge Griffith and the other men? A. No; we indorsed Judge Griffith. Q. And now you have indorsed Senator Jones, haven't you? A. Not since then. Q. He has got your support, active support? A. As a Republican; yes. Q. That is what I say; and he also has the active support of Hicks and these other members on this committee? A. Not that I know of. Q. Didn't you all dismiss Mr. Cottrill from the board because he was not supporting Jones but was supporting me? A. That was not the reason, because he did not support Senator Jones. Q. What was the difficulty? A. It was because he was not in accord with the rest of us. Q. On the question of senatorial candidate? A. On the question of wet or dry. Q. That applied to the senatorial candidate? A. Yes. Mr. BULLITT. All right; why didn't you say so. Senator MCNARY. Well, Mr. Bullitt, I am not at all uncertain about his testimony. Mr. Hicks did not state that. He said they expelled him because he was in sympathy with your candidacy. Let us proceed from that standpoint. Mr. BULLITT. That is exactly what I am doing. Senator MCNARY. And not say it was because he did not support Mr. Jones. Mr. BULLITT. Well, I can not make that distinction. Senator MCNARY. Well, I make quite a wide distinction, and in my opinion it is easily made. Q. Do you think there is any difference between that action of yours and that of the Anti-Federal Closing Law League interposing Senator Jones and supporting me? Do you think there is anything inconsistent with the Anti-Federal Sunday Closing Law League supporting Senator Jones's opponent? A. What? Q. Or the moving-picture operators doing it. As distinguished from the Anti-Saloon League helping Senator Jones? Well, never mind. I will withdraw that. Senator MCNARY. Do you desire to propound any questions? Senator McNARY. That is all. (Witness excused.) TESTIMONY OF BURNS POE BURNS POE was thereupon called as a witness, and having been first duly sworn, testified as follows: Examination by Senator McNARY: Q. If you will state your full name for the record? A. Burns Poe. Q. What is your official position, if any? A. Collector of internal revenues, Tacoma, Wash. Q. How long have you been a collector of internal revenues? Q. Were you recommended by Senator Jones for the position you now occupy? A. Well, I presume so. I was not an applicant for the job, but I got a letter from Senator Jones through the mail recommending me for appointment and I got it; that is all. Q. Why, certainly, it is left to the Senators of each State to make that recommendation. You are supporting Mr. Jones, unquestionably? A. Yes. Q. Have you been active in this campaign? A. I do not hesitate to speak a good work for him whenever I can. Q. Have you been raising any money for Senator Jones? A. No, sir. Q. Have you collected any at all? A. No. Q. Have you made any contributions to his campaign? A. Not to him direct. I made a contribution to the county committee in Pierce County. Q. Of how much? A. I made one contribution of $50, and then I have got a printing bill to pay. I don't know what it is. I have not received from the printer any bill yet, in regard to the letter "Senator Jones reply to Bullitt," and the printer run off 6,000 copies, and I gave them to the committee. Q. You are going to pay for it? A. I am going to pay for it, if the county committee has no money. Q. How much will that be? A. I presume about $36. And then I think a woman called up the other day and said she wanted to run a paid ad, and wanted to know if I had any money; and I told her that I had no campaign |