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The plaintiff seems to be absent. I wired Senator Cameron and Mr. Whitney, asking them to make arrangements for a hall and for reporters. I received a wire in reply that Mr. Whitney and the representatives of Mr. Cameron had made the arrangements. Is Mr. Whitney here?

Mr. WHITNEY. Yes.

Senator KING. Are you Mr. Whitney?

Mr. WHITNEY. Yes.

Senator KING. Who was the representative of Senator Cameron with whom you made the arrangements?

Mr. WHITNEY. Mr. Towles, the representative of Mr. Cameron, and myself this morning made arrangements for this hall and for stenographers.

Senator KING. Is Mr. Towles here?

(No response.)

Is the campaign manager of Mr. Cameron here?

(No response.)

Is the treasurer of Senator Cameron's campaign committee here? (No response.)

We will proceed. Stand up, Mr. Whitney.

TESTIMONY OF LOUIS B. WHITNEY

LOUIS B. WHITNEY was called as a witness and, being first duly sworn to testify to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the matters under investigation, testified as follows:

Examined by Senator KING:

Q. You are the chairman of the Democratic committee?

A. The Democratic State central committee.

Q. How long have you been chairman?

A. Since the 27th day of September, 1926.

Q. You have been acting chairman of that committee during this campaign?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you an account of the moneys received for the campaign? A. I have.

Senator KING (addressing Mr. Flynn). I wish you would find that resolution.

Mr. FLYNN. I will try. I had it in my office to-day. I have the Congressional Record. I will go to my office, if you will excuse me, and see if I can find it.

Senator KING. What is your name, please?

Mr. FLYNN. Thomas A. Flynn.

The WITNESS. We have an accountant that has all of those reports, as I didn't personally make the checks out.

Senator KING. What I mean is, Have you an account showing all the receipts and disbursements made in behalf of the senatorial candidate in this campaign?

A. I have a full account of all moneys received by the Democratic State central committee.

Q. From all sources?

A. From the 27th of September up until noon to-day, showing all moneys expended on behalf of all candidates; but I do not

believe it is segregated to show how much was expended on behalf of the candidate for United States Senator or any other candidate. Q. Did you make any allocation of the funds received to the senatorial candidate

A. I don't think any allocation was made.

Q. Or to the gubernatorial candidate?

A. No; there was no allocation made.

Q. It was all expended by the State committee?

A. A general statement.

Q. Let me take it. Did you prepare it yourself?

A. No; it was prepared by the accountant.

Q. By whom?

A. Mr. Rountree.

Senator KING (addressing Mr. Rountree). Are you Mr. Rountree?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes, sir. Those have been certified to.

(Three documents handed to the acting chairman.)

Senator KING. Which is more familiar with this, you or Mr. Rountree?

Mr. WHITNEY. Mr. Rountree would be more familiar with it.
Senator KING. I will excuse you for a moment.

(The witness was temporarily excused.)

TESTIMONY OF HARRY W. ROUNTREE

HARRY W. ROUNTREE was called as a witness, and being first duly sworn to testify to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the matters under investigation, testified as follows:

Examined by Senator KING:

Q. Mr. Rountree, state the amount received, the entire amount, by the committee from the beginning of the report up to the present time.

A. The total receipts I have from October 1, 1926, to October-
Q. October what?

A. October 1.

Q. Do you mean to say that is the first time any receipts were had by the committee?

A. As far as I know; yes, sir.

Senator KING. Mr. Whitney, did you receive no moneys whatever until October 1 of this year?

Mr. WHITNEY. I think that is correct.

Senator KING. Have you any doubt about it?

Mr. WHITNEY. I have no doubt about it, if the record shows because the records were kept accurately.

Senator KING. The record shows that, does it, Mr. Rountree? Mr. ROUNTREE. It shows it just from October 1.

Senator KING. What does that aggregate, please?

Mr. ROUNTREE. $13,586.80.

Senator KING. From whom was that aggregate received?

Mr. ROUNTREE. We have that from the candidates and from donations from different people.

Senator KING. How much was received by Mr. Hayden-from Mr. Hayden?

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Mr. ROUNTREE. Mr. Hayden has turned in $2,650.
Senator KING. The gubernatorial candidate, how much?
Mr. ROUNTREE. $325.

Senator KING. Was that by Governor Hunt?

Mr. ROUNTREE. By Governor Hunt, yes.

Senator KING. What other candidates made contributions?
Mr. ROUNTREE. Mr. Lewis Douglas, $500.

Senator KING. Is Mr. Douglas here?

Mr. WHITNEY. I don't think he is. Did you wire J. S. Douglas? Senator KING. I wired J. S. Douglas this evening and subpoenaed him.

Mr. WHITNEY. J. S. Douglas, I called him up on the long-distance telephone this afternoon, and he advised me he could not be here before morning. He is at Douglas, Ariz.

Senator KING. I thought Lewis Douglas, candidate for Congress, would be here.

Mr. BABBITT. May I offer an explanation?

Senator KING. Yes.

Mr. BABBITT. Mr. Douglas is in Wickenberg and will be here. Senator KING. What time?

Mr. BABBITT. He held a meeting in Wickenberg this evening and will be here before long.

Senator KING. Will you telephone him and tell him to be here. We will continue all night.

Mr. BABBITT. Yes; I will get in touch with him.

Mr. ROUNTREE. You wanted Mr. Lewis Douglas?

Senator KING. Let there be order, please, or I will have to appoint a sergeant at arms.

Mr. WHITNEY. Lewis Douglas, $500.

Senator KING. Proceed.

Mr. ROUNTREE. I have given Carl Hayden's contribution and Governor Hunt's. C. O. Case, $150.

Senator KING. Who is Case?

Mr. ROUNTREE. He is running for superintendent of public instruction.

Senator KING. We will file that and make it a part of the record. I want to ask whether there are any contributions from corporations? Mr. ROUNTREE. Not to my knowledge.

Senator KING. Well, look and see.

Mr. ROUNTREE. I will look. I am quite sure there are not. There is one of $6.59, a refund on a freight bill item from Alabam's Freight. That is a corporation. It is a small thing.

Senator KING. That was for literature or something?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Just a freight bill he refunded.

Senator KING. Any contribution from J. S. Douglas?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes; there was one contribution of $1,000 dollars

from Mr. Douglas.

Senator KING. From J. S. Douglas?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes.

Senator KING. And $500 from the candidate for Congress?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes; and there was another $500 item from Mr. Carl Pleasant.

Senator KING. Who is Mr. Carl Pleasant?

Mr. ROUNTREE. He is a private citizen here. He just gave it as a contribution. Now, there was a contribution from Frank R. Duffy, trustee, of $3,923.06. That went to the general fund. Senator KING. Who is Mr. Duffy?

Mr. ROUNTREE. He is our State auditor, and is trustee of the Capitol Building employees. It is just a little private fund of their own that they have been contributing.

Senator KING. How many employees are there there?

Mr. ROUNTREE. I don't know. I guess about 250 or 300.
Mr. WHITNEY. About 1,200 all told.

Senator KING. These are State employees?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes; State employees.

Senator KING. $1,200 you say?

Mr. ROUNTREE. No; $3,923. And then another item of $548.60. Senator KING. From whom?

Mr. ROUNTREE. From the same fund.

Senator KING. Now, you state that that is all the money that has been received by the committee?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Oh, no.

There are numerous others.

Senator KING. I mean the aggregate that you gave.

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes.

Senator KING. $13,000?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes, sir; that was up until this evening around 4 o'clock, $13,000.

Senator KING. Have you any account of the primaries?

Mr. ROUNTREE. No, sir.

Senator KING. Expenditures?

Mr. ROUNTREE. No, sir.

Mr. WHITNEY. The reason for that is the primary expenditures are each run by the individual candidates.

Senator KING. Does your State law require that they shall file accounts?

Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes, sir. They are filed with our secretary of state-filed with the secretary of state.

Senator KING. Have you those?

Mr. ROUNTREE. No, sir; I didn't give them.

Senator KING. Is the secertary of state here?

Mr. ROUNTREE. His representative was here, and will probably be back in a little while.

Senator KING. I want a list of all contributions made to the primary election by the Democratic and Republican candidates. We will treat them both alike.

Mr. ROUNTREE. Now, those, I am quite sure, are all of the large items.

Senator KING. That will be recorded as Exhibit 1 and so marked. (Thereupon the documents referred to were marked as "Exhibit 1," three copies.)

Senator KING. We will receive that as one exhibit. As soon as Senator Cameron's representatives come I want them to have an opportunity of examining those copies.

Mr. ROUNTREE. Senator, we are required to make out a report from 15 to 10 days prior to the election, and then another report 6 days after that time. And so I made a supplemental report of my second

report; my second report was at the close of business last night and I made a supplemental report at the close of business to-day, showing all we have received up to 3 o'clock this afternoon.

Senator KING. That aggregate which you gave, Mr. Rountree? Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes, sir; this includes until

Senator KING. Includes everything up to 3 o'clock this afternoon.
Mr. ROUNTREE. Yes, sir.

Senator KING. Have you received anything since 3 o'clock?
Mr. ROUNTREE. No, sir; not that I know of.

Senator KING. Have you, Mr. Whitney?

Mr. WHITNEY. No; not that I know of.

Senator KING. Now, Mr. Whitney, I will ask you to state the expenditures made by your committee from the beginning of the campaign up to 3 o'clock this afternoon, or until now.

Mr. WHITNEY. I will have to ask the auditor to give you those receipts.

Senator KING. All right. To whom is the money paid?

Mr. WHITNEY. To whom is the money paid?

Senator KING. Yes.

Mr. WHITNEY. Anyone that happens to be in the committee, either the chairman or the secretary, or the checks are made payable to the Democratic State central committee. Some have been made, like the governor's check was made, personally to me, and Mr. Douglas's check was made personally to me without any designation on it, but it was understood it was a campaign contribution, and if they ask who to make the checks payable to, it is made payable to the treasurer, Mr. McCane, the treasurer of the State Democratic central committee, or to the State Democratic central committee, and it is sent to Somerton, to the State treasurer; I mean the Democratic treasurer. Senator KING. Is he here?

Mr. WHITNEY. Yes; he is here.

Senator KING. Is it possible that any contributions were made to members of the committee other than yourself which have not been recorded in that book?

Mr. WHITNEY. It is, of course, possible, but it is not probable, because any money that is expended by the Democratic State central committee, of course, we would have to have the money to expend, and if it was not received by us we could not expend it.

Senator KING. Are the expenditures made under your direction or under the direction of the committee, the executive committee? Mr. WHITNEY. Under the direction of Mr. Babbitt, the secretary and myself, with this exception, that we have established a committee to take care of advertising, consisting of Mr. Gavin, representative of Mr. Hayden, Mr. Curlee, representing Mr. Douglas, and Mr. McCluskey, representing Governor Hunt, and those three gentlemen prepare the advertising that is put in the newspapers on behalf of those three candidates and all other State candidates.

Senator KING. Did the money which paid for the advertising come from the general fund?

Mr. WHITNEY. Comes from the general fund.

Senator KING. That has just been referred to?

Mr. WHITNEY. Yes, sir. Of course, if any candidate puts in any advertising of his own, on his own hook, we have nothing to do with

that.

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