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should be of the most economical description; but he would contend, that the estimates now submitted to their consideration were of the most extravagant kind." Mr. Tierney too, made the following very pertinent observations on the same occasion. "He knew nothing from authority, but it was a common proverb, that what every body said must be true to a certain extent; and would any man deny, that his late Majesty died worth a great deal of property? This property must have been saved out of the Civil List; and was the country to be saddled with a heavy Civil List, in order to enable the King to make savings? True it was, that his late Majesty had a large family to provide for, but no such motive existed in the present case. At this moment every farthing saved to the nation was of importance; and what pretence was there for granting one single sixpence beyond what was necessary? When we are talking of economy and retrenchment, I cannot come down here to take away the salaries of some petty clerks, or to reduce the pensions of a few poor half-pay officers, and shut my eyes to this proceeding, by which such enormous sums are to be voted to his Majesty without inquiry." And Lord J. Russell exposed the extravagance of the proposed allowance by the following striking objection. "It should be recollected, that when the last arrangement was made there were two establishments. There were, it might be said, two kings and two queens to be provided for; and was it not a little too much to say, (if any regard to economy was kept in view,) that the same sums should now be demanded as when these several establishments were to be supported ?"

The whole expenses of Great Britain and Ireland, civil and military, in 1792, were something less than seven millions. The charge for our present establishments is twenty-two millions. It is mockery and insult to say that such expenditure is necessary. The public will surely be astonished to learn, that the army alone costs now what the whole expenses of the country amounted to in 1792.1

"The people of America, setting aside the interest of their national debt, (we are indebted for the statement to that able and public spirited paper, the Scotsman,) pay about 4s. a head for the support of a government, which secures property, dispenses justice equally, guards the national honor and rights, maintains liberty of person, speech, and writing, in a degree never equalled, and (what is of no small moment,) is always in harmony with the opinions and feelings of the people. The people of this country pay about 22s. a head for the mere expense of their government, exclusive of a sum two or three times as great for public debt and poor's rates. Supposing the Americans, by way of amending their government, to 'The sum of 6,643,9687, was voted for Army Estimates last session.

adopt our scale of expenditure, and pay 22s. instead of 4s. a head, what improvements would they introduce as a compensation for the 4-5ths of additional outlay. Their present system seems to want nothing that is essential to good government, unless it be sinecures, rotten boroughs, a pensioned aristocracy, restrictions on the press and public meetings, alien bills, and functionaries, who hold the sentiments of the people in utter contempt and derision. The Americans, we may be assured, will adhere to their simple and frugal system. We do not contend for reducing all our establishments to the scale of the United States. Ours is a monarchy and an old country. But every one can see at a glance that nothing can justify an expenditure in Great Britain eleven times as great as in the United States. We cannot shut our eyes against this obvious truth, that the utmost evil a rigid economy could inflict upon us, would be to bring us into the condition of the United States; an alternative, we venture to affirm, which would not much alarm the tax payers, however dreadful it may sound to the tax receivers."

We caution the public against being influenced by the taunts thrown on Mr. Hume by the ministerial scribes. Let it be borne in mind that the government accounts are purposely made up in the most perplexed form possible, and that every difficulty that could be thrown in the way of his enquiries, has been, and will continue to be, opposed. Hitherto he has been, fortunately, very correct in his statements, and we are astonished that he has been able to be so. But when details are refused, and he is left to make his calculations, without the assistance of those documents which government officers keep back for the purposes of unfair refutation; it is to be expected that such witty gentlemen as Messrs. Palmerston, Ward, and Croker, will take advantage of their own wrong, and try to make Mr. Hume seem not trustworthy from having fallen into mistakes. But if he were to err on almost every occasion, it would not detract from his claims to public gratitude. It is his unparalleled assiduity, his close examination of the Estimates, his exposure of extravagance and jobs that entitle Mr. H. to the high character he has acquired.

Dumfries. W. R. K. DOUGLAS. Voted f. Grant to D. of Clarence; ag. rep. of Malt tax; ag. the Qu.; f. Cath. Emanc.; never f. rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Dysart. Sir R. FERGUSON. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.; f. the Qu.; one of Mr. Hume's phalanx; ag. Grant to D. of Clarence. Elgin. A. FARQUHARSON. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.; did not vote on the Qu.'s case; voted f. rep. of Malt tax, Husbandry Horse tax, and House and Window duties; 3 times f. red.

Fortrose, &c. G. CUMMING. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.; ag. the Qu.; never f. any rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Glasgow, &c. A. CAMPBELL. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc. We cannot trace his attendance any farther.

Jedburgh, Haddington, &c. Sir H. D. HAMILTON. Voted f. the Qu.; f. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; never f. any red. Peebles. H. MONTEITH. Voted f. rep. of Malt tax on the first division, and ag. rep. on the second division; ag. the Qu.; ag. Cath. Emanc.; never f. any red.

Perth. Hon. H. LINDSAY. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. Cath. Emanc.; never f. rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Stirling. R. DOWNIE. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. the Qu.; never f. any red., or f. rep. of taxes.

Tain. Sir H. INNES. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of the Malt tax; never f. any red., or rep. of taxes. His name is not on Cath. Emanc. division.

Dumbartonshire. J. BUCHANAN. Voted f. rep. of Malt tax on first division, and ag. rep. on second division; f. Grant to D. of Clarence; his name is not on Cath. Emanc. division; he does not seem to have voted on the Qu.'s case; never voted f. rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Dumfriesshire. Sir W. JOHNSTON HOPE. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of Malt tax; his name is not on Cath. Emanc. division; never f. rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Edinburghshire. Sir G. CLERK. In Office. Voted ag. Cath.

Emanc.

Edinburgh. Rt. Hon. W. DUNDAS. In Office. His name is not on Cath. Emanc. division.

Elginshire. F. W. GRANT. Voted ag. the Qu.; f. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; never voted f. any red.

Fifeshire. J.WEMYSS. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. Cath. Emanc.; f. rep. of Malt tax; never f. any red.

Forfarshire. Hon. W. MAULE. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.; f. Mr. Hume's motion on Collection of Revenue; does not seem to have voted on the Qu.'s case; never voted f. rep. of taxes, or

f. red.

Haddingtonshire. Sir J. G. SUTTIE. Voted ag. rep. of Malt tax; ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. the Qu.; never voted f. rep. of taxes,

or red.

Invernesshire. Rt. Hon. C. GRANT. In Office. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.

Kinrosshire. R. BRUCE. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. the Qu.; f. rep. of Malt tax; never f. red.

Kincardineshire. Sir A. RAMSAY. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.;

f. Mr. Hume's motion on Collection of Revenues; f. rep. of Malt tax, Husbandry Horse tax, and House and Window duties. Does not seem to have voted on the Qu.'s case.

Kirkudbright. J. DUNLOP. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; never f. rep. of taxes, or f. red.

Lanarkshire. L. C. A. HAMILTON. Voted f. the Qu.; f. Cath. Emanc.; ag. Grant to D. of Clarence; f. rep. of taxes, and f. red. Voted almost constantly f. Mr. Hume's motions.

Linlithgowshire. Sir A. HOPE. Voted ag. the Qu. We cannot trace his attendance any farther.

Orkney and Shetland. J. BALFOUR. Voted f. Qu.'s name to Liturgy; but ag. censure of ministers for their proceedings ag. Her Majesty. Does not seem to have attended to any other purpose, at least "nulla vestigia."

Unless this gentleman

Peebleshire. Sir J. MONTGOMERY. can put in claim to any of the votes attributed to the member for Ayrshire, (and if he has any good taste he will rather rest contented with his own obscurity,) we have met with no proofs of his attendance during either of the sessions.

Perthshire. J. DRUMMOND. Voted ag. rep. of the Malt tax; we do not meet with his name on any other divisions to which we refer.

Pittenweem, Anstruther, &c. Rt. Hon. Sir W. RAE. In Office. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.

Renfrewshire. J. MAXWELL, jun. Voted f. the Qu.; f. red.; f. Cath. Emanc.; ag. Grant to D. of Clarence. Voted f. most of Mr. Hume's motions.

Rosshire. T. MACKENZIE. Voted f. rep. of Malt tax; ag. the Qu.; we do not find his name on Cath. Emanc. division; did not vote f. any red.

His

Roxburghshire. Sir A. DoN. Voted f. Cath. Emanc.; f. Grant to D. of Clarence. Never f. red. or rep. of taxes. name does not appear on any of the divisions on the Qu.'s case. Selkirkshire. W. E. LOCKHART. Voted ag. the Qu.; and unless (which we very much suspect) it be a mistake for the member for Oxford, once f. a red. on the Ordnance Est. Never f. rep. of His name is not on Cath. Emanc. division. Stirlingshire. Sir H. DRUMMOND. Voted f. Grant to D. of Clarence. We cannot trace his attendance on any other questions to which we refer.

taxes.

Sutherlandshire. G. M. GRANT. Voted f. the Qu.; f. rep. of taxes; f. Cath. Emanc. Never f. red.

Wigtonshire. J. H. BLAIR.

J. H. BLAIR. Voted f. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; f. Grant to D. of Clarence; ag. the Qu. Never f.

red.

Wigton, Whitehorn, &c. Sir J. OSBORN: In Office. His name is not on the Cath. Emanc. division.

Freland.

Dublin, County. H. HAMILTON. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. the rep. of Malt tax; of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; never f. retrenchment or rep. of taxes.

R. W. TALBOT. economy and red.

Voted f. the Qu.; f. Cath. Emanc.; f.

Dublin, University. Rt. Hon. W. C. PLUNKETT. Did nothing, as far as we can collect, except move the Emanc. Bill.

Dublin, City. Sir R. SHAW. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc.; did not vote f. any retrenchment or rep. of taxes.

T. ELLIS. Do., do., except that he voted ag. Cath. Emanc. Antrim. Hon. R. B. O'NEIL. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. the Qu. Never f. rep. of taxes or retrenchment.

Member since dead.

Lisburne. H. B. SEYMOUR. In Office. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.

Armaghshire. Hon. H. CAULFIELD. Voted f. the Qu.; f. Cath. Emanc.; f. retrenchment and rep. of taxes.

C. BROWNLOW. Voted f. Grant to D. of Clarence; ag. the Qu.; ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. rep. of Malt tax. Never f. rep. of taxes, or retrenchments.

Armagh. W. STUART. If he ever attended, "nulla vestigia." Athlone. D. KERR. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of Malt tax. Never f. rep. of taxes or retrenchment. His name does not appear on the Cath. Emanc. division.

Belfast. Lord BELFAST. Voted ag. rep. of Malt tax. We cannot trace his attendance any further.

Bandonbridge, Bandon. Lord BERNARD. Voted ag. Cath. Emanc.; ag. rep. of Malt tax. Never f. rep. of taxes or retrench

ments.

Carlow, County. H. BRUEN. Voted ag. rep. of Malt tax. We cannot trace his attendance farther.

Sir U. BURGH. In Office. His name is not on Cath. Emanc division.

Carlow, City. C. HARVEY. Voted ag. the Qu.; ag. rep. of Malt tax; f. Cath. Emanc. Never f. rep. of taxes or f. retrench

ment.

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