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A. At the time we was incorporated there were two or three men used as incorporators who may have three or four or five shares, possibly, just for the purpose of incorporation.

Mr. CROAFF. About when was it incorporated, please?
A. In 1923.

Q. And at the time of your incorporation, or at any time since, have you received any financial assistance from Mr. James Douglas, or anyone associated with him?

A. No, sir.
Q. Is your stock escrowed in any manner in any bank or anywhere

loan?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Where?
A. The Valley Bank.
Q. Who controls the Valley Bank, if you know?

A. Well, I know some of the principal stockholders and directors, I think. I did know.

Q: Have you any knowledge that it is controlled by any particular mining companies or group of mining companies, or anything of the kind? A. No, sir.

Q. You do know, however, that Mr. Mills and Mr. Ricketts are concerned both in several mining companies and in the Valley Bank too?

A. I think so; yes, sir.
Q. For how large a loan is your stock escrowded?

A. I made the loan at Morenci some time ago, prior to the incorporation of this.

Senator King. How long ago?
A. Prior to the incorporation, oh, in 1910 or 1911.
Q. You have been carried along from year to year?
A. Yes, sir.

Q. Of course, it is a little embarrassing and I don't want you to go further than you have'to. A man don't like to disclose that he has got his stock pledged and it isn't quite fair unless the exi gencies demand it.

Mr. Croaff. He has to disclose it under the postal laws and regu: lations and publish it' in his paper so I can't see how it will inconvenience him.

The WITNESS. Pardon me. To make the matter clear, Senator, I am the owner of the stock of this company, and I had the company previous to this one, and in negotiating the purchase of the paper at Morenci, which does not now exist, that was consolidated with the Clifton paper, and this loan was negotiated at that time to help buy the Morenci paper, and my personal stock was put up at the Valley Bank as security for the loan.

Q. Has that loan influenced you at all in your politics.

A. It has not influenced me at all, Senator. It influenced me paying the 8 per cent lots of time.

Q. Has any member of the bank from whom you made this loan attempted to influence in the policy of your paper in any way because you had a loan there?

A. Never.
Q. Or told you who to support or who not to support?
A. In no manner whatsoever.
Senator KING. Proceed.
Mr. CROAFF. I believe that is all.
Senator King. That is all.
Mr. Flynn. One question please.
And you supported Governor Hunt?
A. I did.
Q. In all your papers?
A. I did.
Q. Who paid for the Cameron ads?

A. I don't know how it was paid for. I know that they had that much space and that is what it amounted to.

Q. And this Mr. Ricketts that has been spoken of is the gentleman who contributed $1,000 to the Republican State committee, is he not?

A. I don't know anything about it.
Q. What are his initials? L. V.?

A. The one he asked me about was connected with the Valley Bank; that are his initials.

Senator King. The report which was submitted by Mr. Towles shows that Mr. Ricketts did contribute $1,000 to the Republican campaign, as I recall it.

Mr. Flyxx. No; it was the report of Mr. Pickrell, to the State committee, and not to the Cameron fund.

Senator Kixg. The Republican campaign fund. That is all Mr. Kelly, and I thank you very much for your courtesy.

(The witness was excused.)

TESTIMONY OF W. S. PARKINS

W. S. PARKINS was called as a witness, and being first duly sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth as to matters under investigation, testified as follows:

Examined by Senator K.NG:
Q. What is your name?
A. W. S. Parkins.

Q. Did you hear the witness who was or is connected with the same paper as yourself testify a few moments ago?

A. No, sir: I did not.
Q. What paper are you connected with?
A. The Miami Evening Bulletin.
Q. What position do you occupy?
A. Bookeeper.

Q. You are not satisfied with that other testimony and want to supplement it?

Mr. CroaFF. I thought it would only take a minute and we would like it.

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Senator King. State the amount received from political advertisements during the primary campaign and the persons or associations or political parties or committees, from whom, or who made the payments. A. In the primary campaign? Q. Yes. A. Ellinwood for Governor Club, approximately $250, and Clark for governor about $80, Cox for governor $35, and Lewis Douglas $114.50, Carl Hayden $34.

Q. That is all that you received ?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. From candidates?
A. Yes.

Q. During the primary campaign. Coming now to the present campaign, the general election, state the advertisements and the cost and who paid for the same.

A. Clark for Governor Club $27 and Carl Hayden $34.
Q. Is that all ?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Nothing from Cameron?
A. No, sir.
Q. Nothing from the Democratic State committee?
A. Yes, sir; $18.
Q. You have given all now, have you!
A. Yes, sir.

Q. That is all the money received by your newspaper in both campaigns!

A. Yes.
Q. For political advertising for all parties?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And individuals?
A. Yes, sir.
Senator King. That is all.
Mr. CROAFF. May we ask the witness a question?
Senator King. Yes.

Mr. CROAFF. Do you recall, Mr. Parkins, any checks being received with which to pay for the Ellinwood advertisements?

A. Those were all checks and I imagine, or I believe, I don't remember the signature on them, but I think to the best of my knowledge, that it was by the Ellinwood for Governor Club.

Q. To refresh your memory, do you recall the name of Stuart, a Mr. Stuart!

A. Yes, sir. Q. Being signed! A. Yes, sir. & And are you acquainted with Mr. Stuart, who is the editor of the Prescott Courier?

A. I believe I met him once. Q. Do you recall whether those checks signed by Mr. Stuart and received by you on those accounts were drawn on a Phoenix or a Prescott bank?

A. That I could not tell you.

Mr. CROAFF. That is all.
Senator King. You may be excused.
(The witness was excused.)
Senator King. Are there any other witnesses?

Gentlemen, you will please have Mr. Cameron, sr., and Mr. Cazeron, jr., here to-morrow morning. We will stand adjourned until 9 o'clock to-morrow morning.

(Thereupon an, adjournment was taken until November 1, 1926, at 9 o'clock a. m.

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UNITED STATES SENATE,
SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EXPENDITURES
IN SENATORIAL ELECTIONS,

Phoenix, Ariz. The committee met, pursuant to adjournment, at 9 o'clock a. m., in the Federal Building, Phoenix, Ariz., Senator William H. King presiding. Present, Senator King.

TESTIMONY OF C. L. GIRAGI

C. L. Giragi was called as a witness, and being first duly sworn to testify to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to matters under investigation, testified as follows:

Examined by Senator King:
Q. State your name, please.
A. C. L. Giragi, of the Winslow Mail.
Q. And you live at Winslow, Ariz.?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Are you the proprietor or editor of any newspaper!
A. Editor and manager.
Q. What paper?
A. The Winslow Mail.

Q. During the campaign, either the primary or the general election, did your paper carry any advertisement for either of the candidates on the Democratic or the Republican tickets! A. Yes, sir.

Q. State in the primary election what advertisement you carried, the extent of the advertising, and who paid for the same

A. For each candidate?
Q. Yes; and any committees.

A. During the primary election we carried for Carl Hayden two advertisements, a total of $20. For Don C. Babbitt, secretary of "the Democratic central committee, an advertisement during the primary, that was made on May 28, a total of $35; for Lewis W. Douglas, for Congress Club, a total of $153.75; for H. A. Davis, personal, $16.75. Q. Who is Davis?

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