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The CHAIRMAN. We will call them the "Lundin-Small"
Mr. WEST. Yes.

group, then.

The CHAIRMAN. But what position did Lundin hold of an official character, if any?

Mr. WEST. None at this time. I think he has not for many years.

The CHAIRMAN. Was he ever connected with the Small administration in any way?

Mr. WEST. No; not so far as I know.

The CHAIRMAN. Who are the leading men in the Lundin group?

Mr. WEST. Mr. Edward H. Wright, who is here; Capt. Percy B. Coffin; Frank P. Brady, now deceased. Mr. Brady was clerk of the appellate court.

a few days before the primary.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

He died

Mr. WEST. I think that covers their chief leaders here. They are very strong down State compared to the other groups.

The CHAIRMAN. Who were their chief leaders in the State?

Mr. WEST. Governor Small.

The CHAIRMAN. And Governor Small's appointees?

Mr. WEST. Yes. I do not know the down State very much, any more.

The CHAIRMAN. What organization did the Lundin-Small group have in Cook County?

Mr. WEST. They had probably six or seven wards pretty well organized; maybe more. We thought they were strong in some places where we were weak.

Senator LA FOLLETTE. Can you give us those wards?

Mr. WEST. No; I could not. They were down on the southwest side. Judging from the returns nobody was very strong down there except the CroweBarrett crowd. We thought they were pretty good arithmeticians, some of them, down there. Better not put that in, of course.

The CHAIRMAN. Did the Lundin group and the McKinley group cooperate on the candidate for the Senate?

Mr. WEST. I do not know what the Lundin people did on the senatorship. I assume they were for McKinley, but I do not know.

The CHAIRMAN. You understood they would be for McKinley, did you not? Mr. WEST. No; not necessarily. We did not have any particular understanding on that. I think Mr. Wright, who is here, and who is a member of the Illinois Commerce Commission with Colonel Smith-I think he was for Colonel Smith.

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Wright, will you please come forward a moment? (Mr. Wright came forward.)

The CHAIRMAN. Were you the man that said there was a commission sitting? Mr. WRIGHT. Yes. We had a session this morning, but we finished.

The CHAIRMAN. Then you can wait?

Mr. WRIGHT. As soon as we got through I came up here.

The CHAIRMAN. I thought I was going to accommodate somebody by letting them off, but if you are through we will just let you remain.

Was Mr. Wright the head of the Lundin forces in Chicago?

Mr. WEST. No; Mr. Lundin himself was, I think.

The CHAIRMAN. And you can not tell us about that organization?

Mr. WEST. No. I have told you all that I know about it.

The CHAIRMAN. Do these three different groups comprise the various factions, speaking broadly, of the Republican Party in Cook County? Mr. WEST. I think so.

This testimony may perhaps be supplemented by passages from the testimony of Colonel Green, Senator McKinley's campaign manager (pp. 1665-1666):

Mr. GREEN. This was a very peculiar campaign. Six years ago there were two factions in Illinois, or two organizations, and it was not necessary to spend very much, because Governor Lowden and his friends were on one side, and present Governor Small on the other side, and we lined up with the Lowden faction and we went along that way, printing and distributing literature in favor of Senator McKinley, and that is about all that was done. This year is an off year in the campaign. I frankly say that I can not understand Chicago politics.

The CHAIRMAN. I can not, either.

Mr. GREEN. We thought that the Crowe-Barrett-Brundage faction would be our friends. We thought that the proposition of the World Court did not have anything to do with local county politics, and therefore would not get into it. We were willing, I say frankly, to make some contribution to their county campaigns, feeling that that was the cheapest way by which we could get results. We could not come in here and build an organization of our own. would be only right, if we had the benefit of that one, to use it, just as I did with Mr. West.

It

Under this primary election law the question of the value of organization, and the personnel of men, is pretty hard to measure.

As the result of this first conference, Senator McKinley reported to me that that organization was going to be friendly, and he also reported to me that he had said to them that of course he and Senator Deneen were friendly. That seemed to be satisfactory.

I think William Hale Thompson, however—well, I guess he is a part of the organization, but I may be mistaken. He may have an organization of his own. I think he was not friendly to Senator McKinley. It was reported to me that William Hale Thompson for some reason persuaded these people to make the issue of the World Court in the county campaigns, and that organization quit. That is the report.

The CHAIRMAN. Had there been some talk about the amount which the Senator was expected to contribute to that organization if they supported him? Mr. GREEN. He and I talked about it. I do not know whether he talked with them about it or not.

The CHAIRMAN. What was the amount you mentioned?

Mr. GREEN. I will state what I said; and there was not any agreement, but I thought if we spent $1,000 in a ward, so far as that organization was an effective organization in the particular wards in which it would be advantageous, that we would be justified in doing it.

The CHAIRMAN. And that would be done through their organization?

Mr. GREEN. Yes. The Senator did not agree with me; neither did he disagree with me. I never was asked to furnish it or anything but was notified, to the contrary, that they would not go along with us.

The hopeless confusion of the factional situation in Chicago during the primaries is further illustrated by Charles V. Barrett's definition of the Crowe-Barrett organization (p. 1691):

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The CHAIRMAN. Are you the Mr. Barrett who is referred to in the name the Crowe-Barrett organization "?

Mr. BARRETT. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Will you tell me in a general way what that organization is? Mr. BARRETT. In the first place, Senator, the name is a misnomer. There are many elements in the organization. In the last campaign William Hale Thompson joined us so far as the county organization was concerned, together with some of his friends. Prior to that time he had not had any affiliation with us. There is a group known in Chicago as the Brundage group, Brundage being the former attorney general. He and his friends affiliated with the so-called Crowe-Barrett organization. There are three or four men in the organization so far as local affairs are concerned who are affiliated with Attorney General Carlstrom. Then there are some men in the organization who are friends of Judge Crowe and myself. It is a conglomerate organization. That is about all I can say to you.

The CHAIRMAN. Is that the organization you call the regular Republican organization?

Mr. BARRETT. It is called the regular Republican organization because within the organization there was a majority of the regularly elected county central committeemen under the laws of the State of Illinois who control by a majority vote the power to nominate the regular officers in accordance with the statute.

The operations and affiliations of the Illinois Anti-Saloon League, both in the primary and general election, will be dealt with in a separate partial report covering the Anti-Saloon League as a national organization and its operations in the States covered by investigations on the part of your committee.

It also remains for the committee to report in extenso the record touching the refusal of witnesses to testify. Such a report will be filed as a separate document, for the reason that it will require separate consideration by the Senate.

The committee will report upon the other investigations made by it of conditions in other States. It is being written and will be filed in the very near future.

The present document is now delivered to the Senate chiefly because a number of Senators have requested early information touching the Illinois situation.

The committee reserves to itself upon making its final report the right to make such comments and recommendations as may seem appropriate.

Respectfully submitted.

JAS. A. REED, Chairman.
CHARLES L. McNARY.
GUY D. GOFF.

WILLIAM H. KING.

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