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HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON
IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON
INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

S. 1275

A BILL TO CLARIFY THE RELATIONSHIP OF INTERESTS OF THE

UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATES IN THE USE

OF THE WATERS OF CERTAIN STREAMS

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U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

36-961

WASHINGTON : 1964

COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington, Chairman CLINTON P. ANDERSON, New Mexico THOMAS H. KUCHEL, California ALAN BIBLE, Nevada

GORDON ALLOTT, Colorado FRANK CHURCH, Idaho

LEN B. JORDAN, Idaho ERNEST GRUENING, Alaska

MILWARD L. SIMPSON, Wyoming FRANK E. MOSS, Utah

E. L. MECHEM, New Mexico QUENTIN N. BURDICK, North Dakota PETER H. DOMINICK, Colorado CARL HAYDEN, Arizona GEORGE MCGOVERN, South Dakota GAYLORD NELSON, Wisconsin HERBERT S. WALTERS, Tennessee

JERRY T. VERKLER, Staf Director

STEWART FRENCH, Chief Counsel
Roy M. WAITACRE, Professional Staff Member

RICHARD D. ANDREWS, Minority Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

FRANK E. MOSS, Utah, Chairman CLINTON P. ANDERSON, New Mexico THOMAS H. KUCHEL, California HENRY M. JACKSON, Washington

GORDON ALLOTT, Colorado
FRANK CHURCH, Idaho

LEN B. JORDAN, Idaho
QUENTIN N. BURDICK, North Dakota
CARL HAYDEN, Arizona

CONTENTS

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S. 1275---

Departmental reports:

Agriculture

Bureau of the Budget-

16

Defense..

10

Federal Power Commission.

17

Interior..

3

Justice..

11

Proposed amendment to S. 1275.

262

H.R. 6140, 86th Congress, 1st session.

71

STATEMENTS

Anderson, Hon. Clinton P., a U.S. Senator from the State of New Mexico. 36

Baker, John A., Assistant Secretary of Agriculture.---

63

Banks, Harvey O., consulting engineer, San Francisco, Calif.

144

Barry, Frank J., Solicitor, Department of the Interior-

64

Bennett, Hon. Wallace F., a Ú.S. Senator from the State of Utah..-

48

Bible, Hon. Alan, a U.S. Senator from the State of Nevada -

45

Biemiller, Andrew J., director, Department of Legislation, AFL-CIO. 139

Carter, Joe D., chairman, Texas Water Commission...

239

Clark, Ramsey, Assistant Attorney General of the United States for

Public Lands...

53

Clark, Robert E., University of New Mexico Law School.

148

Clayman, Jacob, administrative director, Industrial Union Department,

AFL-CIO.-

141

Davis, Clarence, State Water Board, Montana-,

165

Dickenson, Richard W., representing the National District Attorneys'

Association..

224

Dominick, Hon. Peter H., a U.S. Senator from the State of Colorado-

118

Dunbar, Duke, attorney general, State of Colorado; accompaned by

Daniel McLeod, attorney general, South Carolina; and Dr. Mitchell

Wendall, counsel for the Council of State Governments---

110

Ely, Northcutt, chairman, Committee on Water Resources, American Bar

Association...

243

Enersen, Burnham, attorney, representing the California Chamber of

Commerce

199

Engle, Hon. Clair, a U.S. Senator from the State of California-
Fricke, Milton, chairman, Water Resources Committee, National As-
sociation of Soil and Water Conservation Districts...

142

Goldberg, Abbott, deputy director, California State Water Resources

Commission, and representing Hon. Edmund G. Brown, Governor,

State of California...

120, 181

Goodwin, Charles, assistant to the General Counsel, Department of the
Navy-

72, 193
Graham, Harry L., legislative assistant to national master, National
Grange..

218
Harding, Hon. Ralph, a U.S. Representative from the State of Idaho-- 51, 89
Hodges, Randolph, director, Florida Board of Conservation....

217

Interstate Conference on Water Problems.

183

Johnson, Irving 0., Alameda, Calif.

296

Jordan, Hon. Len B., a U.S. Senator from the State of Idaho.

40

Kennedy, Harold W., county counsel of the county of Los Angeles-

167
Krieger, James H., chairman, Southern California Water Conference-

294
Kuchel, Hon. Thomas H., a U.S. Senator from the State of California--- 19
Mason, John C., Deputy General Counsel, Federal Power Commission.-- 76

47

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92

McDonald, Angus, National Farmers Union, and Kenfield, Leonard, Page

president, Montana Farmers Union....

28.9

McKinley, Ed I., Jr., commissioner of soil and water conservation, State of

Arkansas..

100

Meehan, John J., secretary, Natural Resources Committee, Chamber of

Commerce of the United States.

161

Mosk, Stanley, attorney general, State of California.
National Association of Attorneys General --

292
Porter, Carley V., chairman, Water Committee, California State Assembly, 136, 277
Raper, John, attorney general, State of Wyoming; accompanied by Charles
Astor, National Resources Board; and Eugene Van Camp, State com-
missioner

103
Robinson, Raleigh W., director, Division of Water Resources, Tennessee
Department of Conservation.

217
Shomberger, Hugh, president, National Reclamation Association; accom-

panied by Dr. Mitchell Wendell, counsel, Council of State Governarents, 183, 195

163

196

86
292

299

281

181

Simpson, Milward L., a U.S. Senator from the State of Wyoming

Taylor, Edward F., chairman, Water Problems Committee, representing

Municipal Law Officers of the United States.

Taylor, John, representing the American Farm Bureau Federation..

Taylor, Paul S., Berkeley, Calif.
Thompson, Sam, chairman, Mississippi Board of Water Commissioners..

Vizzard, Rev. James L., 8.J., director, Washington Office, National

Catholic Rural Life Conference --

Zahniser, Howard, executive director, The Wilderness Society-

COMMUNICATIONS

Andrews, Richard D., minority counsel, Committee on Interior and Insular

Affairs: Letter to James H. Krieger, chairman, Southern California

Water Conference, dated Februarv 13, 1964...

Campbell, Hon. Jack M., Governor, State of New Mexico: Letter to Hon.

Clinton P. Anderson, U.S. Senate, dated February 14, 1964.

Clyde, Hon. George D., Governor, State of Utah: Letter to Hon. Frank E.

Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation, dated

March 25, 1964.

Cobey, James A., State senator, State of California: Letter to Hon. Glenn

M. Anderson, president of the senate, State of California

Douglas, Philip A., exceutive secretary, Sport Fishing Institute: Letter to

the chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation, dated

April 1, 1964.---

Dunn, Lloyd, chairman, Bear River Protective Committee: Letter to Hon.

Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation,

dated February 7, 1964.-

Goodwin, Charles, assistant to the General Counsel; Department of the

Navy: Letter to Hon. Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on

Irrigation and Reclamation, dated March 23, 1964.
Lane, Donel J., executive secretary, Oregon State Water Resources Board:

Letter to Hon. Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation

and Reclamation, dated March 16, 1964.
McMillən, C. W., American National Cattlemen's Association: Letter to

Hon. Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Recla-

mation, dated March 12, 1964..
Pitts, Thomas L., secretary-treasurer, California Labor Federation, AFL-

CIO: Telegram to Andrew J. Biemiller, director, Department of Legisla-

tion, AFL-CIO, dated March 6, 1964.
Quinn, J. B., master, California State Grange: Telegram to the National

Grange, Washington, D.C., dated March 9, 1964.

Saunders, Glenn G., chief counsel, Denver Board of Water Commissioners:

Letter to Duke Dunbar, attorney general, State of Colorado, dated

March 10, 1964---

Smylie, Hon. Robert E., Governor, State of Idaho: Letter to Hon. Frank

Noss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation, dated

February 25, 1964.-

Stucki, Merrill, Washington County (Utah) clerk: Letter to Hon. Frank

E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation, dated

September 13, 1963.-

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295

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