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Communications:
Campbell, Hon. Jack M., Governor, State of New Mexico: Letter to
Hon. Clinton P. Anderson, U.S. Senator, dated April 6, 1964------
Casey, Walt, president, Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce: Letter to
Hon. Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and
Reclamation, dated May 13, 1964.

Cottrell, W. F., city manager, Boulder City, Nev.: Letter to Hon.
Frank E. Moss, chairman, Subcommittee on Irrigation and Rec-
lamation, dated May 14, 1964...

Fayle, Leonard R., president, Las Vegas Valley Water District: Letter to Hon. Frank É. Moss, chairman. Subcommittee on Irrigation and Reclamation, dated May 11, 1964---.

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Jackson, Hon. Henry M., chairman, Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs: Letter to Hon. Stewart Udall, Secretary of the Interior, dated March 23, 1964.

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Ryan, James G., chairman, Clark County (Nev.) Board of Commissioners: Letter to Hon. Frank Moss, U.S. Senate....

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Miscellaneous information:

Arizona Laws 1961, Act of March 17, 1961, Senate bill No. 189. Colorado River water supply, averages for period 1906 to 1959, inclusive...

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Compilation of Federal statutes adopting the priority principles of
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Statement of William E. Warne director, California State Department of Water Resources, relative to State water project and possibility of enlarging aqueduct

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APPENDIXES

APPENDIX A

Additions to statements on "ownership" of water rights:

Department of the Interior..

Goldberg, B. Abbott..

Mosk, Stanley..

APPENDIX B

Memorandums, resolutions, and communications submitted by Senator

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Diversion of imported northern California water into the Colorado
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Comparison of S. 2760 with January Southwest water plan... ....

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Expressions of support for S. 2760_.

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Expressions of opposition to January 1964 Pacific Southwest water plan

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Expressions of opposition to August 1963 Pacific Southwest water plan..

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Additional expressions of support for protection of existing projects..

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APPENDIX C

Supplemental testimony of Northcutt Ely....

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APPENDIX D

Brown, H. D., engineer, Consolidated Mines & Smelting Co., Ltd.: Letter
to Hon. Henry M. Jackson, chairman, Committee on Interior and In-
sular Affairs..

Communication from Adolph J. Ackerman, consulting engineer, Madison,
Wis......

Horton, Harry W., special counsel, Imperial Irrigation District: Letter to
the Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs...

Western Municipal Water District of Riverside County, Calif., resolution..

APPENDIX E

Decree of Supreme Court in Arizona v. California..
Article by Edward W. Clyde, a Utah attorney..

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CENTRAL ARIZONA PROJECT

THURSDAY, APRIL 9, 1964

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON IRRIGATION AND RECLAMATION

OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 9 a.m., in room 3110, New Senate Office Building, Senator Frank E. Moss (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Senators Frank E. Moss (Utah), Henry M. Jackson (Washington), Clinton P. Anderson (New Mexico), Quentin N. Burdick (North Dakota), Carl Hayden (Arizona), Thomas H. Kuchel (California), and Alan Bible (Nevada).

Also present: Senator Barry Goldwater (Arizona).

Also present: Jerry T. Verkler, staff director; Stewart French, committee counsel; Roy M. Whitacre, professional staff member; Richard D. Andrews, minority counsel; and Robert Bendt, professional staff member.

Senator Moss. The subcommittee will come to order.

The hearing this morning has a twofold purpose: First, to continue and perhaps complete the hearings on S. 1658, the bill to authorize, construct, and maintain the central Arizona project, Arizona-New Mexico, and for other purposes. Hearings were conducted on this measure on August 27 and 28, and on October 1 and 2, 1963.

The first 2 days were utilized for the purpose of receiving testimony from Bureau of Reclamation witnesses. Those testifying at the October hearings were Members of Congress and witnesses from the State of Arizona.

At these hearings, the chairman announced that time would be made available to receive testimony from other witnesses who were interested in the bill. The hearings this week were scheduled for that

purpose.

Because of the interrelationship between the central Arizona project and the proposed Pacific Southwest water plan that has been proposed by the Department of the Interior, the committee requested Secretary Udall to be prepared to testify on this matter, also. (The chairman's letter to the Secretary reads as follows:)

Hon. STEWART L. UDALL,

Secretary of the Interior, Department of the Interior,
Washington, D.C.

MARCH 23, 1964.

DEAR MR. SECRETARY: This is to advise you of a public hearing beginning at 9 a.m. on April 9 and 10 by the Irrigation and Reclamation Subcommittee on S. 1658, the central Arizona project, and the southwest water plan.

No reports have been received on S. 1658, and, of course, the southwest water plan has not been received by the committee. However, these proposals have

been the subject of a great deal of discussion by both the administration and the Congress, and therefore your report before the hearing is requested. It would also be appreciated if the testimony you plan to present at our hearing is available prior to the hearing date.

Please notify Jerry T. Verkler, staff director of the Senate Interior Committee, of the witnesses from your Department. Sincerely yours,

HENRY M. JACKSON, Chairman.

Senator Moss. I am sure that we are all familiar with the situation that faces the committee in scheduling any hearings while the civil rights debate is in progress on the floor of the Senate. I expect that the committee will sit from 9 until 10 today, tomorrow, and Saturday and then if necessary, go over to next week. It may be that they will want to start earlier on the ensuing days.

It is hoped that the committee will continue with 1-hour sessions until all witnesses are heard.

The chairman regrets that this situation exists and that many of you here to testify will be inconvenienced by the time procedure. However, I know of no other way to proceed in order to make the complete record this very important proposal deserves.

If anyone finds it impossible to stay and testify in person, I will be very happy to include any statement you wish to make a part of the official record of these proceedings.

Senator ANDERSON. Could I ask you a question?

Senator Moss. Certainly.

Senator ANDERSON. Perhaps 8:30. We have at least a 6-week filibuster. Why start earlier? The only time some of us get to our office is before 9.

Senator Moss. I was thinking really of witnesses who might not like to stay in Washington a week or two, waiting to be heard. We will discuss that at the time we complete today.

Senator KUCHEL. I want to join with the Senator from New Mexico. I do not now want to object to the hearings with the Secretary of Interior here ready to testify on the bill by the two Senators from Arizona, but I am usually in the Senate when we complete our day's business at 9 or 10 o'clock at night and there is a limit to what any human being can stand.

I want to enter my objection to meeting any earlier than 9 o'clock in the morning.

I must say this bill, this whole concept, is a matter of the most crucial urgent importance to the people I represent and it may take a lot more than an hour a day, Mr. Chairman, for a few weeks, in order to complete our hearings.

Senator Moss. The hearings will be conducted until we have made the record that we think is necessary to proceed on. Certainly, we won't override the wishes of the members of the subcommittee but we will try our best to accommodate the witnesses we have who want to appear.

Senator ANDERSON. Could you give us some idea what you meant by "earlier" because I finished my last check on Alaska close to midnight last night and Jim Carr is now back to enlighten us on what he has seen up there in his work. If I go to bed a little after midnight, I don't like to get up at 4 o'clock.

What did you have in mind?

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