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TAX PROPOSALS AFFECTING PRIVATE

PENSION PLANS

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-SECOND CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

TAX PROPOSALS AFFECTING PRIVATE
PENSION PLANS

MAY 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, AND 16, 1972

Part 1 of 3 Parts

(May 8 and 9, 1972)

Printed for the use of the Committee on Ways and Means

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CONTENTS

Press release dated Thursday, April 13, 1972, announcing public hearings on administration tax proposal affecting private pension plans. -Committee print containing message from the President, letter of transmittal from the Treasury Department, text of the bill, and administration's explanation (H.R. 12272) _ _

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Government Witnesses

Department of the Treasury:

Hon. Edwin S. Cohen, Assistant Secretary for Tax Policy.
Hon. Joel Segall, Deputy Assistant Secretary.

John E. Chapoton, tax legislative counsel.
Ronald B. Gold, financial economist__

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Public Witnesses

Ad Hoc Corporate Pension Fund Committee:
John A. Cardon, Washington, D.C.......

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Marc M. Twinney, Jr., actuary and pension manager, Ford Motor
Co...

574

Kenneth L. Houck, assistant general counsel, Bethlehem Steel CorpAmerican Association of Retired Persons, and National Retired Teachers Association, Bernard E. Nash, executive director, presented by Cyril F. Brickfield, legislative counsel..

578

326

American Bankers Association:

John M. Cookenbach, president, trust division _ _ _ _ _

293

William F. Lackman, chairman, committee on employees trusts_
Robert L. Bevan, assistant Federal legislative counsel..

293

293

American Bar Association:

Mac Asbill, Jr., chairman, section of taxation _ _

229

Hon. Sheldon S. Cohen, chairman, special committee on retirement benefits__

241

American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations:
Andrew J. Biemiller, director, department of legislation
Bert Seidman, director, department of social security.
Arnold Cantor, economist, research department...

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401

American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, Robert G. Skinner, chairman, division of Federal taxation____.

315

American Telephone & Telegraph Co., Stanley L. King, Jr., assistant vice president, human resources -

516

Ammond, Harold J., national director, Political Action Committee for
Engineers and Scientists---

615

Anderson, Hon. John B., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Illinois.

112

Asbill, Mac, chairman, section of taxation, American Bar Association-
Association for Advanced Life Underwriting, Marshall I. Wolper, president_
Augenblick, Robert L., president, Investment Co. Institute..
Bangert & Co., San Francisco, Calif., Louis O. Kelso, legal counsel..
Barberg, W. Warren, chairman, National Association of Life Underwriters_
Baskin, Charles G., secretary-treasurer, Golf Course Superintendents
Association of America

229

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267

350

Bassett, Preston C., director, vice president, and actuary, Towers, Perrin,
Forster & Crosby---

425

Beidler, Jack, legislative director, United Auto Workers of America.
Bevan, Robert L., assistant Federal legislative counsel, American Bankers
Association.

507

293

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