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The interpreter was then sworn.

Mr. BROUGHAM asked, whether he appeared by any order of the house, or at the instance of the party promoting the present bill? He wished to ascertain this point, because upon the answer which he received would depend his right to introduce an interpreter on the part of her Majesty

The LORD-CHANCELLOR thought there could be no objection to inquiring of the interpreter himself by whom he had been engaged to offer himself to the house in that capacity.

Mr. BROUGHAM then addressed the Marchese Spinetto, and asked in whose employment he appeared there as an interpreter?-1 received my instructions from Mr. Planta and Mr. Maule.

Mr. BROUGHAM.-Do you mean Mr. Planta of the Foreign-office, and Mr. Maule, solicitor to the Treasury?—I do.

Mr. BROUGHAM.-That, then, is quite a sufficient reason for my desiring to have a second interpreter sworn. Though it may not, strictly speaking, be necessary at this moment, it may be more convenient to swear him immediately.

Beneditto Cohen then took the usual oath to interpret faithfully all the evidence which the witnesses might deliver.

Mr. BROUGHAM said he understood that the witness at the bar did not object to the form of being sworn, but he submitted to their lordships that it might be proper to inquire whether he had undergone those preparations which were necessary in his own country before his evidence could be received in a court of justice.

The LORD CHANCELLOR entertained no doubt that, if the witness was sworn according to the forms of this country, and was himself satisfied with that mode of attestation, his evidence was upon every legal principle admissible.

Theodore Majochi was then sworn, and, in answer to a question suggested by her Majesty's counsel, emphatically stated that he considered himself to be brought there to speak the truth, and nothing except the truth.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL proceeded to examine him after the following manner :

Of what country are you a native? I was born at Stolingo. Is that in Italy? It is twelve miles from Lodi.

Do you know Bartholomew Bergami? Yes.

When did you first become acquainted with him? In the service of General Pino.

At what time did you first know him? It was in the year 1813 or the year 1814. I knew him by being in the same service. (By Mr. Brougham.) Do you understand English? No, not at all.

In what situation was Bergami when in the service of General Pino? He was there as a servant, a valet-de-chambre.

What situation did you yourself hold at that period? I was the postillion, or rider.

Do you know what was the condition of Bergami at that time in point of finances? He was rather poor than rich.

What wages did he receive? Three livres of Milan a-day. Do you know whether he was possessed of any property besides the wages that he received? No.

What do you mean by no? Do you mean that you do not know, or that he was not possessed of any separate property? I do not know more than that he received three livres a-day. Did you leave the Service of General Pino before Bergami quitted it? I did.

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Into what service did you enter?

I went to Vienna, and was

in the service of the Duke of Roccomania as his postillion. Did you afterwards enter any service at Naples? Yes, into that of General Joachim Murat.

Was Murat at that time King of Naples? He was.

Did you there see Bartholomew Bergami? Yes, I did.

When did you see him there for the first time? In June, I believe.

Mr. BROUGHAM said he had objections to urge to this course of examination. He apprehended also that it was competent to him to state his objection to a question before the answer was received.

The EARL of LIVERPOOL observed, that the house would be better enabled to judge of the force of any objection to a question after hearing the answer to it.

The LORD-CHANCELLOR found himself compelled to admit that the objection should be heard in the first instance, as the answer might otherwise make an impression, which, if the question were over-ruled, it might be difficult to

remove.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL resumed his examination.

At what time did you meet with Bergami at Naples? About Christmas, 1814.

In whose house? In the house of her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales.

In what situation was he at that time? He was courier, and it was reported, equerry.

Can you tell us the precise time? At the beginning of the year 1815.

Do you recollect how long it was after you had been at Naples that you met Bergami? I remember that he told me he would make me a present.

Did you afterwards enter the service of the Princess? I did. How long after you had met with Bergami? About a fortnight afterwards.

What was then the situation of Bergami? and wore a livery.

He was lacquey,

At what table did he dine? There were two tables, and he dined at the table of the upper servants.

By Lord Harrowby. Who were the other persons who dined at that table? There were, beside Bergami, Mons. Sicard the maitre d'hotel, M. Jeronimus, and the waiting-maid of the Princess's dame d'honneur, whose name, as she was an Englishwoman, I forget.

Did any other person divide the duty about the person of the Princess? Yes, M. Jeronimus sometimes.

Was that by turns? The upper servants performed the duty by turns.

Did any one ever attend out of his turn? Jeronimus often carried in the tray for the morning's dejeune.

Do you know what was the situation of the sleeping-rooms of the Princess and of Bergami at that time? Yes, I recollect it well.

Describe it. The rooms of the Princess and of Bergami led to each other by a corridor, in which there was a small cabinet. Bergami's bed-room was situated to the left.

Are we to understand that there was no space between the two ́ rooms, except what was taken up by the corridor and the cabinet that you mention? There was nothing else; and it was necessary to pass through the corridor to go from one room to the other.

What was there on the other side of Bergami's bed-room? A saloon.

Who usually slept in the cabinet? Nobody; it was free. Did the rest of the family sleep in that part of the house, or at a distance? Their rooms were separated.

Do you recollect any accident happening to Bergami? Yes.
What was it, and where did it happen? It was a kick from a horse.
When did it happen? When they went to the lake Aniano.
In consequence of it, was he put to bed? Yes.

Did you see the Princess in his room during his sickness? Yes, I saw her Royal Highness there on one occasion with Jeronimus and Dr. Holland, who was dressing Bergami's foot.

Did you carry any broth to him? Yes.

Did you see the Princess on that occasion? No, I do not remember.

Were any directions given to you as to where you were to sleep after this accident? Yes, I remember.

Where was it? On the sofa in the cabinet, and near the fire place,

Was that the cabinet of which you have been speaking? It was. How long did you continue to sleep there? Five or six nights. Did you see any body pass during any of these nights through the corridor? Yes, I did.

Was a fire kept there at the time? Yes, there was a fire always. Who was it whom you saw pass? Her Royal Highness.

Did she pass in a direction towards Bergami's room? Yes, she did.

How often did this happen during the time you slept in the cabinet? Twice.

Do you recollect at what hour it happened the first time? About half past midnight.

How long did she remain in Bergami's bed-room on the first~`~ occasion? About 10 or 15 minutes.

In what manner did she pass? bed-side, looked, and passed on.

Very softly: she came to my

After she had entered Bergami's room, did you hear conversation, or any thing else pass between them? I only heard some whispering.

How long did the, Princess remain the second time in Bergami's room? About 15 or 18 minutes, more or less.

Was there a garden attached to the house? Yes, a small one. Was the door of it kept locked? Yes.

Who had they key? Bergami.

Did the Princess ever walk in that garden?

Yes.

How long did the Princess remain at Naples? About a month, or 40 or 50 days.

Did the witness go with the Princess when she left Naples? Yes. Before the Princess left Naples, and after witness entered into her service, did any of her English attendants leave her? Yes, there were some of the English who left her.

Who were they? I can't tell all.

Say first who were the gentlemen that left the Princess? There was Monsieur Sicard, the maitre d'hotel, and Captain Hesse. What was Captain Hesse? I don't know, but believe he was called an equerry.

Do you remember the other names of those who left? No; witness can't remember.

Was the name of Gell among them? I believe it was.

Was he the chamberlain ? I don't know he wore two small mustachios. (A laugh.)

Was a gentleman named Captain Keppel Craven among the English who then left the Princess? I don't remember; but I think there was such an English name who left the suite of the Princess.

Did any of the English gentlemen in attendance upon the Princess leave her at Naples? Yes: but I can't recollect their

names.

Were there any ladies who left the Princess? Yes; but I don't recollect the names.

Did any

of them quit the service of the Princess? Yes; but

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